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	<title>Comments on: del.icio.us/dossy links since March  6, 2006 at 09:00 AM</title>
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		<title>By: Dossy</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2006/03/deliciousdossy-links-since-march-6-2006-at-0900-am/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Dossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris:

Yeah, it&#039;s funny that Zend put together a web framework.  People who are inclined to hack PHP do so because, well, they&#039;re just hacking code together to build something.  It takes discipline to leverage a framework; it&#039;s that lack of discipline that (I believe) attracts the hobbyist web developer to PHP.  So, I wonder how successful a web framework for PHP could ever be.  By its very nature, PHP isn&#039;t going to attract folks who are inclined to use frameworks.

Of course, the times could be changing.  If there&#039;s a God out there, he&#039;s going to swiftly kill Java once and for all, and folks will migrate to PHP, Ruby/Rails, Python or (my preference) AOLserver.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris:</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s funny that Zend put together a web framework.  People who are inclined to hack PHP do so because, well, they&#8217;re just hacking code together to build something.  It takes discipline to leverage a framework; it&#8217;s that lack of discipline that (I believe) attracts the hobbyist web developer to PHP.  So, I wonder how successful a web framework for PHP could ever be.  By its very nature, PHP isn&#8217;t going to attract folks who are inclined to use frameworks.</p>
<p>Of course, the times could be changing.  If there&#8217;s a God out there, he&#8217;s going to swiftly kill Java once and for all, and folks will migrate to PHP, Ruby/Rails, Python or (my preference) AOLserver.  <img src='http://dossy.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Christopher</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2006/03/deliciousdossy-links-since-march-6-2006-at-0900-am/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dossy, my wife loves the Oh Baby one. Nice to see Zend getting into the framework game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dossy, my wife loves the Oh Baby one. Nice to see Zend getting into the framework game.</p>
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		<title>By: Dossy</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2006/03/deliciousdossy-links-since-march-6-2006-at-0900-am/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Dossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If del.icio.us would allow more than some 200-odd bytes for a link description, I could do more with the entries that get posted weekly in my roll-up here.  As it is, I have to cram in the plaintext link attribution at the end of the description.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If del.icio.us would allow more than some 200-odd bytes for a link description, I could do more with the entries that get posted weekly in my roll-up here.  As it is, I have to cram in the plaintext link attribution at the end of the description.</p>
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		<title>By: josephgrossberg</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2006/03/deliciousdossy-links-since-march-6-2006-at-0900-am/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>josephgrossberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, show me some love with a link, bro. :)

And stop hating on the JS presentation; it&#039;s got some interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, show me some love with a link, bro. <img src='http://dossy.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And stop hating on the JS presentation; it&#8217;s got some interesting stuff.</p>
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