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	<title>Comments on: How hard can it be to find geek friends?</title>
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		<title>By: Dossy</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Dossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>foo: Interesting suggestion, but in my experience, con-goers are largely just poseurs.  Have you met any real skilled programmers at a sci-fi con?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>foo: Interesting suggestion, but in my experience, con-goers are largely just poseurs.  Have you met any real skilled programmers at a sci-fi con?</p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple look for a Sci-Fi convention in your area. Geeks abound! A large proportion of fandom are programmers or net admins and many aren&#039;t dorks either (although some are.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple look for a Sci-Fi convention in your area. Geeks abound! A large proportion of fandom are programmers or net admins and many aren&#8217;t dorks either (although some are.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dossy</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>Dossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UberGeek: There&#039;s a difference between geeks (those who do things because they can) vs. dorks (those people still living in their parents basement, wearing their Star Trek uniform, etc.).

I&#039;m not interested in dorks.  I want to meet geeks.  People who take things apart (and put them back together again, _correctly_) to learn how they work.  People who modify stuff (including software) out of curiosity as well as to suit their own needs.  People who enjoy doing something for the sake of &quot;the hack&quot; value.

Whether I program in Tcl or not is largely irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UberGeek: There&#8217;s a difference between geeks (those who do things because they can) vs. dorks (those people still living in their parents basement, wearing their Star Trek uniform, etc.).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in dorks.  I want to meet geeks.  People who take things apart (and put them back together again, _correctly_) to learn how they work.  People who modify stuff (including software) out of curiosity as well as to suit their own needs.  People who enjoy doing something for the sake of &#8220;the hack&#8221; value.</p>
<p>Whether I program in Tcl or not is largely irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: UberGeek</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>UberGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dossy, you&#039;re a Tcl/Tkl programmer.  And I hate to be the geek that has to tell you this, but...   ...in Geek circles that&#039;s just not cool.  I can be rockin out to a Devo album, reviewing my DVD collection of Star Trek the Next Generation Season IV, and reviewing an EverQuest strategy book on how to succeed past 4327 hours of play.  But when I hear that someone still programs in Tcl, I get seriously ill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dossy, you&#8217;re a Tcl/Tkl programmer.  And I hate to be the geek that has to tell you this, but&#8230;   &#8230;in Geek circles that&#8217;s just not cool.  I can be rockin out to a Devo album, reviewing my DVD collection of Star Trek the Next Generation Season IV, and reviewing an EverQuest strategy book on how to succeed past 4327 hours of play.  But when I hear that someone still programs in Tcl, I get seriously ill.</p>
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		<title>By: Dossy</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>Dossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete: You mean, you&#039;re using &quot;http://raster.myopenid.com/&quot; as your Identity URL and logged in successfully at myopenid.com and it wouldn&#039;t treat you as authenticated in my blog comments?

When you say &quot;failed,&quot; exactly what do you mean?  Do you get an error message of some sort?  What is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete: You mean, you&#8217;re using &#8220;http://raster.myopenid.com/&#8221; as your Identity URL and logged in successfully at myopenid.com and it wouldn&#8217;t treat you as authenticated in my blog comments?</p>
<p>When you say &#8220;failed,&#8221; exactly what do you mean?  Do you get an error message of some sort?  What is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Prodoehl</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-818</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Prodoehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck finding your geek friends. I know it took me a while. Also, OpenID login did not work for me. I tried using by blog URL (which is set as a delegate) and that failed, and then tried using the real one at myopenid.com and that failed too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck finding your geek friends. I know it took me a while. Also, OpenID login did not work for me. I tried using by blog URL (which is set as a delegate) and that failed, and then tried using the real one at myopenid.com and that failed too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dossy</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>Dossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen: thanks--I&#039;ve made a small change to try and normalize the URL as the spec. calls for.  I&#039;m glad that once the URL is  normalized, that my OpenID consumer does actually work, though. :-)

re: finding geeks, you&#039;re definitely right, I&#039;m making things a lot harder for myself.  But, as I said, my previous lack of discrimination has yielded some good friends, but not what I ... &quot;emotionally&quot; ... need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen: thanks&#8211;I&#8217;ve made a small change to try and normalize the URL as the spec. calls for.  I&#8217;m glad that once the URL is  normalized, that my OpenID consumer does actually work, though. <img src='http://dossy.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>re: finding geeks, you&#8217;re definitely right, I&#8217;m making things a lot harder for myself.  But, as I said, my previous lack of discrimination has yielded some good friends, but not what I &#8230; &#8220;emotionally&#8221; &#8230; need.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Harris</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m definitely looking for a specific type of geek&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, that&#039;s gonna make life harder.  The whole nature of internet collaborative development means that you can discuss projects and topics with someone 3500 miles away... but not find anyone to go down the pub with.  That&#039;s tough.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&#8217;m definitely looking for a specific type of geek</i></p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s gonna make life harder.  The whole nature of internet collaborative development means that you can discuss projects and topics with someone 3500 miles away&#8230; but not find anyone to go down the pub with.  That&#8217;s tough.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Harris</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re openID: Yeah, looks like it needed http:// prefix.  Not what the spec says :-)
http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0-12.html
&lt;i&gt;
7.2.  Normalization

The end user&#039;s input MUST be normalized into an Identifier, as follows:
[...]
   3. Otherwise, the input SHOULD be treated as an http URL; if it does not include a &quot;http&quot; or &quot;https&quot; scheme, the Identifier MUST be prefixed with the string &quot;http://&quot;.
&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re openID: Yeah, looks like it needed http:// prefix.  Not what the spec says <img src='http://dossy.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0-12.html" rel="nofollow">http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0-12.html</a><br />
<i><br />
7.2.  Normalization</p>
<p>The end user&#8217;s input MUST be normalized into an Identifier, as follows:<br />
[...]<br />
   3. Otherwise, the input SHOULD be treated as an http URL; if it does not include a &#8220;http&#8221; or &#8220;https&#8221; scheme, the Identifier MUST be prefixed with the string &#8220;http://&#8221;.<br />
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		<title>By: Dossy</title>
		<link>http://dossy.org/2007/10/how-hard-can-it-be-to-find-geek-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Dossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: LiveJournal OpenID, are you providing the URL as just &quot;sweh.livejournal.com&quot; or as &quot;http://sweh.livejournal.com/&quot;?  I should probably default to the http scheme if it&#039;s not a well-formed URL (i.e., doesn&#039;t explicitly include the scheme), but I don&#039;t yet--so, you need to enter it in explicitly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: LiveJournal OpenID, are you providing the URL as just &#8220;sweh.livejournal.com&#8221; or as &#8220;http://sweh.livejournal.com/&#8221;?  I should probably default to the http scheme if it&#8217;s not a well-formed URL (i.e., doesn&#8217;t explicitly include the scheme), but I don&#8217;t yet&#8211;so, you need to enter it in explicitly.</p>
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